The Post

Jen & Chris discuss "The Post" - the post production process they went through to create their first fiction podcast, THE STRANGE CHRONICLES.

In their recurring segments, they cover "Technical magics or mishaps," "How the writing is going," and provide a "Podcast tip," something to help you along your journey in making your own fiction podcast.

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Transcript

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Jennifer
Hi and welcome to Making The Strange a podcast about how we made our fiction podcast. We will take you along with us in real time while we create our fiction podcast. I'm Jennifer, the writer and creator of the Strange Chronicles.

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Chris
And I'm Chris, the producer of the Strange Chronicles, sci fi noir detective podcast.

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Jennifer
In today's episode, we're going to talk about what it takes to create the post, which means post-production, the assembling of all of the creative elements. We'll talk about the editing, the music arrangement, the sweetening, the sound effects and exporting of the final product.

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Chris
We'll also discuss a technical mishap that happened along the way, something we hope to help you avoid in an hour. How's the writing going segment? We'll discuss how the writing is going.

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Jennifer
And finally, we'll provide a podcast tip, something that you can use as a strategy for your own podcast.

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Chris
First, a quick rundown of this podcast and why we are making it.

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Jennifer
Yes, Making the Strange is a chronicle of our experience making a fiction podcast. So it's a little meta, a podcast for a podcast.

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Chris
The experiment is partly to keep us accountable and on task and also to share the experience for others who might want to make their own fiction podcast.

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Jennifer
Exactly. So if you happen to be one of those people, we'd love to hear from you. Any questions or comments are welcome. Email us at info at the Strange Chronicles dot com and we'll be sure to include your questions and a future episode.

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Chris
Great. Now it's time for our technical magic or mishap. And today it's a mishap.

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Jennifer
Oh, Chris, tell us what the technical mishap is.

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Chris
Okay. So today's mishap was regarding the launch of our first episode. As we talked about in episode one. We put our podcast up through bus route. Bus ride allows you to post to all the different places Apple, Spotify, Amazon, Google, you name it. The first one up to put it through, you kind of had to do a little bit of a manual process still.

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Chris
You can't just like hit, publish and everything's there. Some of them, it actually works that way. It's pretty nice, but we knew going in that the big ones, the big boys would be a bit of a process. There's time for approvals and all this stuff. So we did this about two weeks before we launched Episode one. We wanted to have enough time to get through that review process and make sure we had a launch date.

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Chris
So first up was Apple and everything was going smoothly. We hit publish, we connected the RSS feed into our podcast, and then it came time to accept the terms and services. Now we have multiple entities because we are planning on doing multiple projects and we wanted to keep all of those entities separate. So we have different Apple accounts for each of our podcasts.

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Chris
So it became a little bit of a process since the only way you can accept the terms and services with an Apple ID is not through the web where you do everything else, but through their proprietary application. So you have to open up the app and accept their terms and services. But in doing so, if you have your main entity, if you're logged in to one of your devices, your iPad or your phone, if you're logged into all those devices as your main entity, you have to log out of that ID and log in as the alternate ID so you can open up the app and accept the terms and services, which for most people

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Chris
it doesn't sound problematic. But what that does is everything loses sync. You're basically logging out of your main account. Yeah, you're logging out of your main account. And it's scary. You know, you do a backup beforehand, but you want to go when you come back in to log in, you worry about all your files linking up, right? And sometimes, you know, it works, but it takes a couple of days and you're like, where this thing go?

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Chris
And I can't find it. And it's, it's scary. So once I figured out, I had to do it and it's not exactly obvious that that's why it's not working. That's what that's what it was. I kept running into some error message. It was saying, you know, your your podcast isn't accepted yet or whatever it was. I don't remember the specific error message, but basically I was like, Why is this not going through Isaiah's not finalizing.

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Chris
I've done everything. And it was accepting the terms of services.

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Jennifer
Yeah. So if you're having trouble getting it to publish with Apple Check and make sure you've accepted the terms and services. And again, like Chris said, if you want to do it under a separate entity, you have to do a new Apple ID sign in as that Apple ID accept the terms and services. Then you can log out and log back in as your other entities.

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Chris
And I will say after that, the process of getting through the approval process with Apple was great, Spotify was great, it was all really fast. We were concerned you would read again. You've done so much research into this project. This is why we tried to do it so far ahead of time because we wanted to make sure we passed the various podcasts, players, QC process and those were instantaneous.

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Chris
I think for Apple our stuff was ready the next day, or maybe even the same day, same as Spotify found it the same day.

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Jennifer
The other ones were a little bit slower, some.

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Chris
Of the other ones were slower. I think Google was about a one or two day trail. iHeart, Stitcher, all of the other ones were pretty quick. They were within 2 to 48 hours.

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Jennifer
Cool.

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Chris
And then that's the great thing is once you've got your first one up, then you're in the system and the approval process doesn't take as long. Pretty much as soon as you hit publish on your podcast host, it's available really quickly on all those other podcast services. You don't have to go through that process, from what I can tell, every single time, right?

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Chris
It just seems to happen, which is nice. So that's why we did actually we posted the promo first, right.

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Jennifer
As a testing. That was.

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Chris
Our testing.

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Jennifer
Group. Yeah. I think this is going to come up in another episode too.

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Chris
Okay.

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Jennifer
Yeah. But so again, you made a technical mishap into some magic.

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Chris
I mean, like I said, the magic always stems from the mishap.

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Jennifer
It's true.

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Chris
That's how we learn.

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Jennifer
Exactly.

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Chris
All right. Next up, we're going to discuss how the writing is going. So, Jen, how is the writing going?

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Jennifer
It's going, oh, I know it's going all right. It's been fits and starts because I'm finishing up a really big project right now. So when I finish that, I'll be able to get back into the podcast writing. But I will say I was able to get an outline done for the next episode, so I'll have to write that episode up.

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Jennifer
But it hasn't been great right now, so my verdict on the writing for now is hopeful, but I have only done an outline.

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Chris
Okay. I mean, we had it's funny, we seem to be alternating on on your stages of writing and how you're feeling about the writing. I think episode one, you're like, It's great. Episode three Like.

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Jennifer
Yeah.

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Chris
Episode three was her area episode for healing, right?

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Jennifer
I think this is like more mare, right? Like I did do something you're.

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Chris
Writing process is like a sine wave.

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Jennifer
It's just it is for sure. Is. And sometimes it's like a big you. So my verdict on the writing for now is hopeful that the amount of time I have for writing will be more open.

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Chris
All right. Well, next up, we are going to discuss the post.

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Jennifer
Yes, this is the post episode. Now, this is just a basic rundown of what happens after the recording and the editing of The Strange Chronicles.

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Chris
Which is the process you go through. You know, you're the main voice recording, so you go and you go in your little closet booth and record the whole episode after it's written, and then send me.

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Jennifer
The file.

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Chris
Beautiful.

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Jennifer
File, and then you reject it. They do it again. They do it again, and then you reject it. I'm just kidding. Okay, that did happen. The one episode.

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Chris
I have notes.

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Jennifer
Yes. I'm sorry. Okay. Tell us about the Post story.

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Chris
I do the same thing to myself. All I'm editing so it's not.

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Jennifer
Just when you're done editing. Yeah, I have notes.

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Chris
You have notes back.

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Jennifer
So it's a good works out there where exactly.

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Chris
You have to have thick skin.

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Jennifer
Exactly.

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Chris
Don't take anything personally. All right. So the post process for me, it's I mean, for anyone, it's a multi-step process. First thing I do is I listen to all those recordings that you make and then I do a timeline layout of the script and I choose the best takes, which is, you know, it takes a while. Again, you've given me you probably do about what, two or three takes at least.

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Jennifer
Yeah. I mean, it started out my first episode. I think I was doing like 6 to 8 takes.

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Chris
Yeah, that was a bit much. That was that many.

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Jennifer
That was a lot. I was being a little bit perfectionist, but hopefully we're getting a little snappier.

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Chris
Yeah, I think so. All right. So after I've grabbed all what I consider to be the best take that you've done, that's when I go in and I do the fine tune process of the dialog editing. Now there are apps that you can get that will help cut out a lot of noise and you know, they'll filter out some breaths and intakes and all that stuff.

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Chris
And I've run the audio through a bunch of those and sometimes I feel like it makes the audio sound really like or bleed digitized. I've tried a bunch of different settings and I'm not an audio engineer, so I know. No kidding. So I, you know, I do the best that I can and I try a lot of automated things and it doesn't always give the best results to the ear.

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Chris
So what I do instead, and this is probably an insane process, but I go through and I cut out every single time you intake your breath on your takes. So I end up with probably 400 or 500 edits in a 10 to 15 minute podcast.

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Jennifer
So make a song out of those.

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Chris
Of your breaths. We can auto tune it. Yeah.

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Jennifer
Like it would be like a beatbox sound, right? If it's just breath. I mean, I try to breathe on the side.

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Chris
No, you do a great job, but every once in a while you can't help it. You're human. That's how I mean. You have to. You have to breathe it. Oh, gosh. So, you know, I go through and that's step one B, I guess, or I, you know, I guess at step two. Then when I'm finished with all that I go through and I sort of work out the pacing, this is sort of a detective noir story.

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Chris
I wanted to keep the pacing up and a little like rat a tat tat is something we had talked about as far as like the creative performance. So again, I'll go through and make sure the timing sounds right because when I'm cutting out those breaths, it can make for awkward pauses. I want to make sure you sound natural as you're talking.

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Chris
And then once I've got that all lined up, that's where the episode really starts to take shape. So I've got a really good lay down of your whole entire recording, and as I'm going through it, I've got the script next to me. I'm making notes on making sure I'm not missing any parts of the script that you've put in there.

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Chris
Sometimes I'll make a couple of decisions or I'm like, And that line's not really working. It doesn't really make sense. I'll pull it out. Come talk to you afterwards and be like, Hey, I did this. And you're like, Okay, that makes sense. Or you'd be like, No, throw that back in.

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Jennifer
Oh, that's important.

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Chris
You keep it. That's my performance. No, no, no. You know, we're usually we're pretty in tune. Yeah. With that.

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Jennifer
Stuff. And then you go through the scripts and find the sound effects.

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Chris
Yeah. So when you write the script, you put in a little audio cues for me or put in little notes for when an audio cue needs to go in. Sometimes they're very descriptive, like, I need a car sound or a phone ringing, and sometimes you just like to write in sounds.

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Jennifer
I'm doing less of that now. I'm better. I understand writing audio a little bit better. Well, where does somebody find sound effects for their podcast?

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Chris
So you get them from sound libraries and there are many different sound libraries out there. Some you can pay for very professional, others you can try and find free on the web. That's a little scary because you don't know that you've really got the rights to use that. That's part of where like again, going through a professional sound library service will help you because you know, when you're buying that, you're looking at the agreement, you're saying, okay, I have the rights to use this audio in my broadcast.

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Jennifer
Are there ones that are free that you can like sound libraries that you can? Yeah.

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Chris
Yes, there are royalty free sound libraries that give you the rights to use in commercial applications or something like a podcast. I've even gone so far as to record some of our own fully and make some some sound effects. I don't know if you saw me the other night. I was like out in the driveway starting and stopping my car and opening and closing doors.

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Jennifer
Oh, I didn't. That's amazing.

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Chris
I was recording my own, fully trying to get those right sounds.

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Jennifer
No, those are great ideas for people that don't want to pay for sound effects or can't pay for sound effects to go out and record your own if they're you know, it's kind of fun. And I think there are some websites that give you ideas on how to make certain sounds.

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Chris
Yeah, you can look up like how to do good Foley and things and.

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Jennifer
And that's Foley. Foley y yeah.

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Chris
Yeah. And those Foley artists, they do it professionally again. They're brilliant.

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Jennifer
Okay, so you've got the sound effects, but you're also using music. So how do you go about making the audio soundtrack?

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Chris
So you can't just, again, royalties, rights, permissions, all that. You can't just go in and say, oh my God, I love Mark Mother's Bob's music or I love, you know, John Lynch's music. I'm going to go pull the Star Wars soundtrack and put it into our podcast. You can't do that. You don't have the rights, right? You'd get sued and you can't afford to pay for it either.

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Jennifer
Yeah, right, right. Pay for licensing music is can be expensive.

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Chris
It can be very expensive. So I go through and I basically create our own music, which I think I've talked about before on previous podcast using Garage Band.

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Jennifer
Okay. So tell everyone about your process in recording the music with the thing with the earbuds.

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Chris
Right, right, right, right. The earbuds. The earbuds. So I'm using GarageBand to record our music. I've got your recording here on audition, so I've got two devices open. I'm making the music on my iPad using Garage Band and I'm using Audition on my laptop, cutting the episode. I've got two different audio sources going at the same time. So what I do is I put my earbuds in first and those are connected to my laptop.

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Chris
So there's a playing back all the.

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Jennifer
Voiceover recording.

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Chris
The voiceover recording and the sound effects that I've already fine tuned and essentially mastered, then I'll take my big headphones, I'll put those on over my ears, over the earbuds, and those are connected to GarageBand on my iPad. So what I can do is I can hit play on the timeline. In addition, hear the dialog and I've got transparency on the earbuds, so the sound from the cans is coming through.

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Jennifer
It's amazing. Kind of hear what it's going to sound like as a finished press.

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Chris
Yes, I can hear it is going to sound like it's a finished product. I can make sure that what I'm listening to is matching the mood that I'm trying to create in the podcast. That's funny. It's kind of wacky, but yeah, very.

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Jennifer
Very clever.

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Chris
Playing loops as editing. Yeah.

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Jennifer
Hey, that's a good idea if somebody is trying to do that exact thing. Earbuds under headphones to listen to the music while the video is happening.

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Chris
Yeah. I mean if you've got the money, you can have a mixing board and you can have all your sources patched in through the mixing board.

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Jennifer
It's very professional. Yeah, we're not there yet.

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Chris
And no, we're the little podcast that.

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Jennifer
Could I like this? I like this, this planning.

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Chris
This is my this is my duct tape and WD 40 solution.

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Jennifer
Okay, so what exactly is sweetening? It's not like sugar in your tea, right?

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Chris
It is sugar in your tea. It's sugar in your audio.

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Jennifer
Okay. So what does it mean, though?

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Chris
It's really just taking that final product and making it sound the best that it can. You're pulling out all those levels that are too high, making sure there aren't levels that are too low. Everything sounds consistent and where it should be in clean.

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Jennifer
Okay. So like it doesn't have quiet parts and then super loud parts.

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Chris
Yeah, exactly.

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Jennifer
Yes.

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Chris
I don't blow out anyone's ears or you don't want them to start listening to your podcast and you have to turn up the volume because they can't hear you and then they get to another part and all the sudden it's too loud and they're turning the volume down. You want it nice and smooth.

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Jennifer
And sweet.

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Chris
And sweet.

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Jennifer
Okay. And then finally, once the episode has all of those elements, you're done. You've done the editing, the sweetening, the sound effects, the music, all of that. Then what do you do?

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Chris
Then you have to export it so that you can actually put it up on the podcast services, so you can export it as a bunch of different files. Okay, I like to do it as an uncompressed wav because I want to start with the highest quality file that I can. I don't want to degrade the sound at all.

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Chris
If you do compressed files and things like that, every time it goes down through another compression, another compression, it's theoretically is going to sound worse and worse.

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Jennifer
Okay.

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Chris
So in order to keep the quality high, I'll start with uncompressed.

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Jennifer
Okay. So you make it into a wave file and then what do you do with it?

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Chris
So then I take that file and that's what I upload to Buzz Sprout. Okay. And from there they do their magic.

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Jennifer
So that's the last step.

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Chris
Yeah, that's the last step. It's well it's imported into Buzz Sprout. Then you can either let it sit there or you can publish it right away. You can schedule when you want it to publish.

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Jennifer
Okay.

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Chris
But you're pretty much.

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Jennifer
And then you're on the air.

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Chris
Done. Yeah. You're ready to go on the air. Great. Hope it sounds good. You know, all that hard work pays off. Pays off, and then maybe one or two people listen.

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Jennifer
Yeah, maybe three.

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Chris
Three would be amazing.

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Jennifer
That's more than the two of us.

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Chris
It's exactly.

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Jennifer
That. Me and my mom.

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Chris
That means you listened. I listened. And what of our parents?

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Jennifer
Listen? Yeah.

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Chris
Maybe your friend. Yeah, I think you have to have really good friends.

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Jennifer
Yes, friends. Are you out there?

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Chris
Oh, gosh. All right. That finishes up the post bit of this episode. Now it's time for our podcast tip, something we learned to help make your journey easier.

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Jennifer
And the podcast tip for today is baffling.

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Chris
What's baffling?

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Jennifer
It baffles me. Yeah, but okay, that's the thing that we don't do enough of. According to the Century Dictionary, baffling is an arrangement or system of partitions, plates or rings whereby a tendency to motion in an undesired direction is prevented, or basically eliminating echo and bouncing of sound. So people use pillows, rugs, towels, blankets, foam squares or standing partitions.

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Chris
So basically helps you control the sound. Yes, you need this.

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Jennifer
We hung some blankets for the Strange Chronicles and I'm in a closet, so I put a blanket on the floor because it's a wooden floor. And then I've actually heard of people recording under a blanket, which works but can get very sweaty.

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Chris
Especially in the summer.

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Jennifer
For sure. But yeah. Anyway, you can pad the room to have less echo wherever you're recording. I feel like I did try the under the blanket recording once and it was very hard to be crouched enough to stay under the blanket with your computer and the microphone. And it got so uncomfortable, even when it's cooler outside, it's just.

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Chris
I mean, you're sitting under a blanket that's trapping in all your own body heat. You've got the computer heat in there with you generating heat. Yes, it gets hot.

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Jennifer
It does. So blankets and towels and rugs and pillows, I think is the way to go. That's what we have right now. Yeah, we're standing on rugs.

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Chris
Yep.

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Jennifer
We've got pillows and a big blanket. Thick curtains. Blankets around the door.

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Chris
Frames, blankets around the door frames. Try and seal that off. Yeah. I mean, we can't put professional baffling all over our house, so no, we're doing what we can with what we have.

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Jennifer
Exactly.

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Chris
And you know, after we did the first episode, it's like, oh, that sounds a little, a little hollow each time we brought in a few more things. I think this time we've added this big giant blanket next to us.

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Jennifer
Yeah, we'll see if this makes it better.

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Chris
Yeah, we're just trying to pull out that echoey sound. Well, that's it for this episode of Making The Strange.

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Jennifer
We want to thank you for tuning into our journey and creating a fiction podcast and hope that it can inspire you to create your own story. Because we believe everyone has a story to tell. Please email us with any podcast tips or questions you might have at info at the Strange Chronicles dot com.

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Chris
Thanks for listening. You can follow us on Instagram at making the Strange and the Strange Chronicles podcast and Be On the Lookout for the Strange Chronicles, a sci fi detective fiction podcast until our next episode. I'm Chris.

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Jennifer
And I'm Jennifer. Keep it strange.

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Chris
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